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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 17:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too many dogs. TMI</description>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 14:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I could respond to your question if you offered a little more detail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I could respond to your question if you offered a little more detail.</p>
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		<title>By: fairview</title>
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		<dc:creator>fairview</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 09:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>F/F companionship between dogs is a tough row to hoe.  If the owner is not on top of the dog game everyday this is what can happen.  Spaying sometimes make a difference, most times not.  Two females can live together for years and then all of a sudden start fighting, sometimes to the death.  The only reason the chihuahua is not involved in this pissing contest is because of sheer size.  
The time to get invovled was when they first started challenging each other but that is hindsight now.  You may only have one choice and that is to adopt on dog out and let them know she is not compatible with another female.  Your other choice, if you want to try, is the next time they start getting into a contest is to take each of them and roll them over.  It&#039;s the next step in discipline.  Each dog is grabbed by the scuff of the neck and forced down onto their side into a submissive down.  They are held there until they become calm and submissive.  No pawing, scratching or trying to get up.  Once they become calm, they are imediately released.  While it is not physically punitive, it is very effective mental discipline.  
Do a search on what is called Alpha Roll over for dogs.  This discipline is an exact mimic of what an alpha pack leader would do in a pack.  The other thing you can not do is leave these two together when you are not home or otherwise with them.  To do so you run the risk of returning to a blood bath and one dead dog when you get home. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>F/F companionship between dogs is a tough row to hoe.  If the owner is not on top of the dog game everyday this is what can happen.  Spaying sometimes make a difference, most times not.  Two females can live together for years and then all of a sudden start fighting, sometimes to the death.  The only reason the chihuahua is not involved in this pissing contest is because of sheer size.<br />
The time to get invovled was when they first started challenging each other but that is hindsight now.  You may only have one choice and that is to adopt on dog out and let them know she is not compatible with another female.  Your other choice, if you want to try, is the next time they start getting into a contest is to take each of them and roll them over.  It&#8217;s the next step in discipline.  Each dog is grabbed by the scuff of the neck and forced down onto their side into a submissive down.  They are held there until they become calm and submissive.  No pawing, scratching or trying to get up.  Once they become calm, they are imediately released.  While it is not physically punitive, it is very effective mental discipline.<br />
Do a search on what is called Alpha Roll over for dogs.  This discipline is an exact mimic of what an alpha pack leader would do in a pack.  The other thing you can not do is leave these two together when you are not home or otherwise with them.  To do so you run the risk of returning to a blood bath and one dead dog when you get home.</p>
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		<title>By: harley47</title>
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		<dc:creator>harley47</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 08:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have two males neither fixed who used to have dominance issues (and are still learning)  what helped me is between the two of them decide on a dominant dog since they already recognize you as the leader they will accept you choice, feed that dog first pet that dog first etc.  don&#039;t ignore the other one just obviously let the one non dominate one know you&#039;ve chosen that one to be dominate.  If they do start fighting have pans dog dishes etc handy to pound together close to their heads this startles them enough for you to break up the fight.  My dogs rarely ever fight now and if they do a sharp yell from me will stop it.  It takes time and patients.  Hope this helps</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have two males neither fixed who used to have dominance issues (and are still learning)  what helped me is between the two of them decide on a dominant dog since they already recognize you as the leader they will accept you choice, feed that dog first pet that dog first etc.  don&#8217;t ignore the other one just obviously let the one non dominate one know you&#8217;ve chosen that one to be dominate.  If they do start fighting have pans dog dishes etc handy to pound together close to their heads this startles them enough for you to break up the fight.  My dogs rarely ever fight now and if they do a sharp yell from me will stop it.  It takes time and patients.  Hope this helps</p>
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		<title>By: Jacky.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacky.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 07:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay!  I finally got through your whole question.  If you want my honest opinion it sounds like you need to give one of them to a rescue or other foster home that will be able to socialize them better and work on training skills.  Shaunate specifically needs a lot more socialization outside of you and the other dogs.  She needs to be better trained if she is running away and is developing separation anxiety if she is crying at the door of her new home.  
I know you want to make sure she gets a permanent home, but without more training and work, Shaunate will never find a home, or Princess and her will get into a serious enough fight that she&#039;ll be severely hurt and possibly killed.
If your fostering your dogs, I would highly advise you not to hand feed them.  They&#039;ll become very attatched to you this way and most of the time dogs will create the habbit of not being able to eat regular.  A new family isn&#039;t going to hand feed them and they will not be used to that.
If you are having medical problems, I wouldn&#039;t commit to anymore dogs until you know you are physically able to.  I know that medical bills can be very expensive and you wouldn&#039;t want to become financially overwhelmed either.
I hope that helps you.  I know you&#039;re trying to do the right thing, but putting Shaunate in a rescue seems like the best for her and fixing her problems.  I hope you make the right choice and your health gets better!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay!  I finally got through your whole question.  If you want my honest opinion it sounds like you need to give one of them to a rescue or other foster home that will be able to socialize them better and work on training skills.  Shaunate specifically needs a lot more socialization outside of you and the other dogs.  She needs to be better trained if she is running away and is developing separation anxiety if she is crying at the door of her new home.<br />
I know you want to make sure she gets a permanent home, but without more training and work, Shaunate will never find a home, or Princess and her will get into a serious enough fight that she&#8217;ll be severely hurt and possibly killed.<br />
If your fostering your dogs, I would highly advise you not to hand feed them.  They&#8217;ll become very attatched to you this way and most of the time dogs will create the habbit of not being able to eat regular.  A new family isn&#8217;t going to hand feed them and they will not be used to that.<br />
If you are having medical problems, I wouldn&#8217;t commit to anymore dogs until you know you are physically able to.  I know that medical bills can be very expensive and you wouldn&#8217;t want to become financially overwhelmed either.<br />
I hope that helps you.  I know you&#8217;re trying to do the right thing, but putting Shaunate in a rescue seems like the best for her and fixing her problems.  I hope you make the right choice and your health gets better!</p>
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		<title>By: Bonnie L</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bonnie L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 02:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have TOO MANY dogs.  What on earth is a boxador?  Never heard of such a thing.   Probably a MUTT!   Find homes for most of your dogs.  
P.S.  Your post is way too long, probably no on read the entire thing, I know that I didn&#039;t!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have TOO MANY dogs.  What on earth is a boxador?  Never heard of such a thing.   Probably a MUTT!   Find homes for most of your dogs.<br />
P.S.  Your post is way too long, probably no on read the entire thing, I know that I didn&#8217;t!</p>
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		<title>By: W.</title>
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		<dc:creator>W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 21:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow-sorry you  are having to deal with this. First thing I would do is have FULL thyroid panels run on both the dogs who are fighting.Low thyroid is not unusual in dogs and can be the cause of some aggression issues. If all is well medically it may just be a situation of keeping the females separated or rehome one of them. Unfortunately, female to female aggression can be only be dealt with by keeping the dogs separated. Females will fight to the end more often than male to male or even male to female. You can gain some insight from a behaviorist who can visit and assess the situation in person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow-sorry you  are having to deal with this. First thing I would do is have FULL thyroid panels run on both the dogs who are fighting.Low thyroid is not unusual in dogs and can be the cause of some aggression issues. If all is well medically it may just be a situation of keeping the females separated or rehome one of them. Unfortunately, female to female aggression can be only be dealt with by keeping the dogs separated. Females will fight to the end more often than male to male or even male to female. You can gain some insight from a behaviorist who can visit and assess the situation in person.</p>
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		<title>By: DAMARIS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DAMARIS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well u need to be the leader grab them from the collar make them stop fighting and say NO!!!  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well u need to be the leader grab them from the collar make them stop fighting and say NO!!!</p>
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		<title>By: DP</title>
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		<dc:creator>DP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow that was long.. Anyhow Find the one sister a new home.. That is the problem.. Sisters and brothers... even brother x sister combos often fight... They are equal in size and strength, and they know what bugs one another.. No one should keep brother sister combos.. Sometimes it works out well, if one allows the other to dominate.. but if they don&#039;t want to be dominated, then you have problems.. It&#039;s going to be a life long thing... find the offending sister a new home.. THis should have been done long before this fighting started.. Now she will be dog aggressive in her new home and you&#039;ll have to warn people of this.
And quit allowing these fights to go on that long.. You should be seeing the signs and stopping the fight before it even starts.. You have too many dogs to try and control.. You are not the leader.. Way too much going on there.. Don&#039;t be surprised if the rest of your dogs decide to join in... or start picking on the dog that is getting beaten by her sister..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow that was long.. Anyhow Find the one sister a new home.. That is the problem.. Sisters and brothers&#8230; even brother x sister combos often fight&#8230; They are equal in size and strength, and they know what bugs one another.. No one should keep brother sister combos.. Sometimes it works out well, if one allows the other to dominate.. but if they don&#8217;t want to be dominated, then you have problems.. It&#8217;s going to be a life long thing&#8230; find the offending sister a new home.. THis should have been done long before this fighting started.. Now she will be dog aggressive in her new home and you&#8217;ll have to warn people of this.<br />
And quit allowing these fights to go on that long.. You should be seeing the signs and stopping the fight before it even starts.. You have too many dogs to try and control.. You are not the leader.. Way too much going on there.. Don&#8217;t be surprised if the rest of your dogs decide to join in&#8230; or start picking on the dog that is getting beaten by her sister..</p>
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